Sunday, August 19

Last night my mind kept me awake because I was trying to logically figure God out. This was what was running through my head.

• God=infinitely large, intelligent, good, loving, creative
• infinite=having unlimited spacial extent (http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861621161/infinite.html)

• In God's case, spacial extent cannot be of physical property but if it's of spiritual property and covers all possible metaphysical expanse and keeps on going (like a dot that extends out into an infinite sphere), then the metaphysical being of God must somehow include physical property. If God has always been present and nothing else has always been present, then God must fill his own "dimension" (for lack of better word) of timeless and infinite existence in which the personality of God resides (his goodness, love, creativity, etc).
• BUT since I don't believe that anybody is actually a part of God, you have to somehow figure that God can create separate spiritual and physical entities that are governed under His goodness and are made in His image but aren't a part of Him...and can choose to reject God and spend eternity separated from Him in the "lake of fire" (which wouldn't even make sense to human logic unless the rebellious spirit simply became nothingness like they were before conception, because 1/it's impossible to actually be separated from God if he's infinite in size and 2/God can't be in direct contact with sin at all). Or they can choose to accept Jesus' atonement for their sin and someday as a church meet the "bridegroom" Jesus in heaven (does this mean that the church is going to somehow become unified with Jesus? Which would kinda logically go against the whole "we aren't part of God" thing, right?)

So that's what I was thinking about. There are so many theological flaws in my thoughts there that it's crazy. God can't be put into my silly box of thinking because I'm really subjective in the way I think, even when I try to be objective. Even though human logic has been used to do great things like figure out mathematics and everything else, we can't figure out exactly who God is by using our own views of how things "must" work. Because we don't define how things "must work" --we can't define it. God defines it because he created it.

My conclusion last night was that human logic is silly and pointless in the eternal scope of things. Before communion today I asked God to help me to believe in Him like a child does. Just faith. Not needing to have everything or even a safe 50% of things figured out. Realizing that God has provided atonement for me through Jesus. That he's been totally faithful to me and has shown that He knows exactly how He's going to work through all of my life experiences to make me the person He created me to be. Why would I question Him?

Job 38-42

The First Speech of the Lord

1 The Lord spoke to Job out of a storm. He said,

2 "Who do you think you are to disagree with my plans?
You do not know what you are talking about.
3 Get ready to stand up for yourself.
I will ask you some questions.
Then I want you to answer me.
4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?
Tell me, if you know.
5 Who measured it? I am sure you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 What was it built on?
Who laid its most important stone?
7 When it happened, the morning stars sang together.
All of the angels shouted with joy.
8 "Who created the ocean?
Who caused it to be born?
9 I put clouds over it as if they were its clothes.
I wrapped it in thick darkness.
10 I set limits for it.
I put its doors and metal bars in place.
11 I said, 'You can come this far.
But you can't come any farther.
Here is where your proud waves have to stop.'
12 "Job, have you ever commanded the morning to come?
Have you ever shown the sun where to rise?
13 The daylight takes the earth by its edges
as if it were a blanket.
Then it shakes sinful people out of it.
14 The earth takes shape like clay under a seal.
Its features stand out
like the different parts of your clothes.
15 Sinners would rather have darkness than light.
When the light comes, their power is broken.
16 "Have you traveled to the springs at the bottom of the ocean?
Have you walked in its deepest parts?
17 Have the gates of death been shown to you?
Have you seen the gates of darkness?
18 Do you understand how big the earth is?
Tell me, if you know all of those things.
19 "Where does light come from?
And where does darkness live?
20 Can you take them to their places?
Do you know the paths to their houses?
21 I am sure you know! After all, you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
22 "Have you entered the places where the snow is kept?
Have you seen the storerooms for the hail?
23 I store up snow and hail for times of trouble.
I keep them for days of war and battle.
24 Where does lightning come from?
Where do the east winds that blow across the earth live?
25 Who tells the rain where it should fall?
Who makes paths for the thunderstorms?
26 They bring water to places where no one lives.
They water deserts that do not have anyone in them.
27 They satisfy the needs of dry and empty lands.
They make grass start growing there.
28 Does the rain have a father?
Who is the father of the drops of dew?
29 Does the ice have a mother?
Who is the mother of the frost from the heavens?
30 The waters become as hard as stone.
The surface of the ocean freezes over.
31 "Can you tie up the beautiful Pleiades?
Can you untie the ropes that hold Orion together?
32 Can you bring out all of the stars in their seasons?
Can you lead out the Big Dipper and the Little Dipper?
33 Do you know the laws that govern the heavens?
Can you rule over the earth the way I do?
34 "Can you give orders to the clouds?
Can you make them pour rain down on you?
35 Do you send the lightning bolts on their way?
Do they report to you, 'Here we are'?
36 Who put wisdom in people's hearts?
Who gave understanding to their minds?
37 Who is wise enough to count the clouds?
Who can tip over the water jars of the heavens?
38 I tip them over when the ground becomes hard.
I do it when the dirt sticks together.
39 "Do you hunt for food for mother lions?
Do you satisfy the hunger of their cubs?
40 Some of them lie low in their dens.
Others lie waiting in the bushes.
41 Who provides food for ravens
when their babies cry out to me?
They wander around because they do not have anything to eat.

Job 39

1 "Job, do you know when mountain goats have their babies?
Do you watch when female deer give birth?
2 Do you count the months until the animals have their babies?
Do you know the time when they give birth?
3 They bend their back legs and have their babies.
Then their labor pains stop.
4 Their little ones grow strong and healthy in the wild.
They leave and do not come home again.
5 "Who let the wild donkeys go free?
Who untied their ropes?
6 I gave them the dry and empty land as their home.
I gave them salt flats to live in.
7 They laugh at all of the noise in town.
They do not hear the shouts of the donkey drivers.
8 They wander over the hills to look for grass.
They search for anything green to eat.
9 "Job, will wild oxen agree to serve you?
Will they stay by your feed box at night?
10 Can you keep them in straight rows with harnesses?
Will they plow the valleys behind you?
11 Will you depend on them for their great strength?
Will you let them do your heavy work?
12 Can you trust them to bring in your grain?
Will they take it to your threshing floor?
13 "The wings of ostriches flap with joy.
But they can't compare with the wings and feathers of storks.
14 Ostriches lay their eggs on the ground.
They let them get warm in the sand.
15 They do not know that something might step on them.
A wild animal might walk all over them.
16 Ostriches are mean to their little ones.
They treat them as if they did not belong to them.
They do not care that their work was useless.
17 I did not provide ostriches with wisdom.
I did not give them good sense.
18 But when they spread their feathers to run,
they laugh at a horse and its rider.
19 "Job, do you give horses their strength?
Do you put flowing manes on their necks?
20 Do you make them jump like locusts?
They terrify others with their proud snorting.
21 They paw the ground wildly.
They are filled with joy.
They charge at their enemies.
22 They laugh at fear. They are not afraid of anything.
They do not run away from swords.
23 Many arrows rattle at their sides.
Flashing spears and javelins are also there.
24 They are so stirred up that they eat up the ground.
They can't stand still when trumpets are blown.
25 When they hear the trumpets they snort, 'Aha!'
They catch the smells of battle far away.
They hear the shouts of commanders and the battle cries.
26 "Job, are you wise enough to teach hawks where to fly?
They spread their wings and fly toward the south.
27 Do you command eagles to fly so high?
They build their nests as high as they can.
28 They live on cliffs and stay there at night.
High up on the rocks they think they are safe.
29 From there they look for their food.
They can see it from far away.
30 Their little ones like to eat blood.
Eagles gather where they see dead bodies."

Job 40

1 The Lord continued,

2 "I am the Mighty One.
Will the man who argues with me correct me?
Let him who brings charges against me answer me!"

Job's Reply

3 Job replied to the Lord,

4 "I'm not worthy. How can I reply to you?
I'm putting my hand over my mouth. I'll stop talking.
5 I spoke once. But I really don't have any answer.
I spoke twice. But I won't say anything else."

The Second Speech of the Lord

6 Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said,

7 "Get ready to stand up for yourself.
I will ask you some more questions.
Then I want you to answer me.
8 "Would you dare to claim that I am not being fair?
Would you judge me in order to make yourself seem right?
9 Is your arm as powerful as mine is?
Can your voice thunder as mine does?
10 Then put on glory and beauty as if they were your clothes.
Also put honor and majesty on.
11 Let loose your great anger.
Look at those who are proud and bring them low.
12 Look at proud people and bring them down.
Crush those who are evil right where they are.
13 Bury their bodies in the dust together.
Cover their faces in the grave.
14 Then I myself will admit to you
that your own right hand can save you.
15 "Look at the behemoth. It is a huge animal.
I made both of you.
It eats grass like an ox.
16 Look at the strength it has in its hips!
What power it has in the muscles of its stomach!
17 Its tail sways back and forth like a cedar tree.
The tendons of its thighs are close together.
18 Its bones are like tubes made out of bronze.
Its legs are like rods made out of iron.
19 It ranks first among my works.
I made it. I can approach it with my sword.
20 The hills produce food for it.
All of the other wild animals play near it.
21 It lies under lotus plants.
It hides in tall grass in the swamps.
22 The lotus plants hide it in their shade.
Poplar trees near streams surround it.
23 It is not afraid when the river roars.
It is secure even when the Jordan River rushes against its mouth.
24 Can anyone capture it by its eyes?
Can anyone trap it and poke a hole through its nose?

Job 41

1 "Job, can you pull the leviathan out of the sea with a fish hook?
Can you tie down its tongue with a rope?
2 Can you put a rope through its nose?
Can you stick a hook through its jaw?
3 Will it keep begging you for mercy?
Will it speak gently to you?
4 Will it make an agreement with you?
Can you make it your slave for life?
5 Can you make a pet out of it like a bird?
Can you put it on a leash for your young women?
6 Will traders offer you something for it?
Will they divide it up among the merchants?
7 Can you fill its body with harpoons?
Can you throw fishing spears into its head?
8 If you touch it, it will fight you.
Then you will remember never to touch it again!
9 No one can possibly control the leviathan.
Just looking at it will terrify you.
10 No one dares to wake it up.
So who can possibly stand up to me?
11 Who has a claim against me that I must pay?
Everything on earth belongs to me.
12 "Now I will speak about the leviathan's legs.
I will talk about its strength and its graceful body.
13 Who can strip off its outer coat?
Who would try to put a bridle on it?
14 Who dares to open its jaws?
Its mouth is filled with terrifying teeth.
15 Its back has rows of shields
that are close together.
16 Each one is so close to the next one
that not even air can pass between them.
17 They are joined tightly to one another.
They stick together and can't be forced apart.
18 The leviathan's snorting throws out flashes of light.
Its eyes shine like the first light of day.
19 Fire seems to spray out of its mouth.
Sparks of fire shoot out.
20 Smoke pours out of its nose.
It is like smoke from a boiling pot over burning grass.
21 Its breath sets coals on fire.
Flames fly out of its mouth.
22 Its neck is very strong.
People run to get out of its way.
23 Its rolls of fat are close together.
They are firm and can't be moved.
24 Its chest is as hard as rock.
It is as hard as a lower millstone.
25 When the leviathan rises up,
even mighty people are terrified.
They run away when it moves around wildly.
26 A sword that strikes it has no effect.
Neither does a spear or dart or javelin.
27 It treats iron as if it were straw.
It crushes bronze as if it were rotten wood.
28 Arrows do not make it run away.
Stones that are thrown from slings are like straw hitting it.
29 A club seems like a piece of straw to it.
It laughs when it hears a javelin rattling.
30 Its undersides are like broken pieces of pottery.
It leaves a trail in the mud like a threshing sled.
31 It makes the ocean churn like a boiling pot.
It stirs up the sea like perfume someone is making.
32 It leaves a shiny trail behind it.
You would think the ocean had white hair.
33 Nothing on earth is equal to the leviathan.
That creature is not afraid of anything.
34 It looks down on proud people.
It rules over all those who are proud."

Job 42

Job's Reply

1 Job replied to the Lord,

2 "I know that you can do anything.
No one can keep you from doing what you plan to do.
3 You asked me, 'Who do you think you are to disagree with my plans?
You do not know what you are talking about.'
I spoke about things I didn't completely understand.
I talked about things that were too wonderful for me to know.
4 "You said, 'Listen now, and I will speak.
I will ask you some questions.
Then I want you to answer me.'
5 My ears had heard about you.
But now my own eyes have seen you.
6 So I hate myself.
I'm really sorry for what I said about you.
That's why I'm sitting in dust and ashes."

The Story Ends

7 After the Lord finished speaking to Job, he spoke to Eliphaz the Temanite. He said, "I am angry with you and your two friends. You have not said what is true about me, as my servant Job has.

8 "So now get seven bulls and seven rams. Go to my servant Job. Then sacrifice a burnt offering for yourselves. My servant Job will pray for you. And I will accept his prayer. I will not punish you for saying the foolish things you said. You have not said what is true about me, as my servant Job has."

9 So Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite did what the Lord told them to do. And the Lord accepted Job's prayer.

10 After Job had prayed for his friends, the Lord made him successful again. He gave him twice as much as he had before. 11 All of his brothers and sisters and everyone who had known him before came to see him. They ate with him in his house. They showed their concern for him. They comforted him because of all of the troubles the Lord had brought on him. Each one gave him a piece of silver and a gold ring.

12 The Lord blessed the last part of Job's life even more than the first part. He gave Job 14,000 sheep and 6,000 camels. He gave him 1,000 pairs of oxen and 1,000 donkeys.

13 Job also had seven sons and three daughters. 14 He named the first daughter Jemimah. He named the second Keziah. And he named the third Keren-Happuch. 15 Job's daughters were more beautiful than any other women in the whole land. Their father gave them a share of property along with their brothers.

16 After all of that happened, Job lived for 140 years. He saw his children, his grandchildren and his great-grandchildren. 17 And so he died. He had lived for a very long time.